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Episode 34: Don Cheadle - The Original Kung Fu Kenny

This week, we're talking about someone who's been in the game for over 40 years, playing a wide variety of characters, gang bangers, a wall street stockbroker, astronaut, munitions expert. Real life characters like Miles Davis and Sammy Davis Jr. Comic book action hero in the Marvel movies. We're talking about the OG Kung Fu Kenny, Don Cheadle.


Christina: Welcome back to They Reminisce Over You. I'm Christina.

Miguel: And I'm Miguel. This week, we're talking about someone who's been in the game for over 40 years, playing a wide variety of characters. Gang bangers, a Wall Street stockbroker, astronaut, munitions expert. Real life characters like Miles Davis and Sammy Davis Jr. Comic book action hero in the Marvel movies. Who are we talking about?

Christina: Don Cheetos.

Miguel: Don Cheetos?

Christina: Don Cheadle. I was watching some YouTube videos and somebody called him Don Cheetos.

Miguel: So the rest of the episode, we're going to call him Don Cheetos.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: Just for the hell of it. All right. You want to get into it?

Christina: Let's do it.

Miguel: Okay. So when were you first introduced to Don Cheetos? As you said previously.

Christina: Well, the first thing I can remember, clearly remember, is Boogie Nights. But looking at his IMDb, pretty much like every time we, we do this, there are things that came before that, that I know I watched. But that is like my first clear memory of him is in Boogie Nights.

Miguel: I think for me, it was in Colors where he played Rocket, which was pretty funny to see him do. But of course, I didn't know who he was at the time. He was just some gang banger, like I said in the intro. And then probably.

Christina: In 19—Colors was in 1988.

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: And Boogie Nights was 1997. So there's a wide range.

Miguel: There's a big gap in there.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: Yeah. If it wasn't Colors, then it was probably in the Golden Girls spinoff, The Golden Palace. I don't remember if I saw it before or after, but it was one of those two, is where I saw him first. And then also of course, him playing Ice Tray on The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air.

Christina: See, I remember him as Ice Tray, but I don't remember if, cause I feel like this clip just kind of resurfaces.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: And so I don't know if I just remember him on that episode just because I kind of seen it recently or if I actually like, remember him.

Miguel: Yeah, I remember the episode—

Christina: I remember the episode.

Miguel: From when it was on.

Christina: Yeah. Like, I remember the character Ice Tray, let's put it that way. But I don't know if I was like, "Oh yeah, Don Cheadle played Ice Tray."

Miguel: Well, it definitely wasn't that. I did not remember "Hey, there's Don Cheadle."

Christina: Like you're sitting here watching Hotel Rwanda and you're like, "hey, it's Ice Tray."

Miguel: Yeah, I didn't make that kind of connection.

Christina: Yeah I definitely remember that episode.

Miguel: Have you watched any of The Golden Palace?

Christina: I had never heard of The Golden Palace until we looked at, this stuff up. So someone made just kind of like a, an edit of one of the episodes of mostly his interactions. So I was able to catch a quick episode in like 10 minutes. So this kind of goes back to what we were talking about in the last episode about Sandra Oh. And just stuff we've talked about. But this was like in 1992. So it was that time where we were saying how, like, people of color were getting a chance to like do stuff. Because the episode I watched, I was kind of surprised because, so they have a hotel, right?

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: And he works there.

Miguel: Yes, he is everything at the hotel. And if you haven't seen it, I'll give a quick backstory before you tell yours.

Christina: Sure.

Miguel: So The Golden Girls, Dorothy gets married and leaves, leaving the three of them to stay in the house. And they decide to sell the house and buy this rundown hotel. They were told it was a moneymaker. It's actually a money pit so much so that the only employees are Don Cheadle's character, Roland, a foster kid that he's taking care of, and Cheech Marin, who is the chef.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: They're the entire staff.

Christina: And the ladies.

Miguel: Well, this is before the ladies come in.

Christina: Oh, before they bought it?

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: So, they are the only staff that's left.

Christina: Wow, okay. Yeah, I never heard of it. I'm actually surprised I'd never heard of this because, well, I mean, I know, who doesn't know The Golden Girls, right?

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But the episode I watched was they were having the Daughters of the Traditional South were—

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: Were um—

Miguel: Sounds a lot like The Daughters of the Confederacy to me.

Christina: That's basically what it is supposed to be. So they were having like, you know, hotels have these little like, meetups and conferences and stuff. So he was like, "Excuse me, who's coming to the hotel?" So him and Blanche, cause she's, you know, Southern belle, are kind of having this back and forth about why he doesn't want this here. Cause she hangs up a Confederate flag. And for her, she's like, "Oh, but this is like, my daddy's flag." [1]

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: And all these memories she's associated with it in terms of like family and tradition stuff.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: He's trying to explain to her, well, that's not what it means to me.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: And I don't want to see this. I don't want the hotel to be hosting an event like this. One of the Daughters of the Traditional South, when he was, he was kind of like, mocking the like, "yes ma'am, yes ma'am," when they were arguing, and the woman's like, "Oh, you should hang on to him, he's one of the good ones."

Miguel: Oh God.

Christina: So Blanche was like, (gasp). so she goes chasing after him. "I don't think of you like that though." So it was actually, um, I mean for a sitcom, you know, they kind of tackled the whole what the Confederate flag means versus—

Miguel: Right.

Christina: To her it's like a, you know, family traditional thing, yada, yada, yada. But yeah, I was like, oh, okay. What a, interesting one episode for me to watch. But like I said, this was 1992, where at first I was like, wow, I can't believe they talked about this. And then I'm like, well, it was '92. And we had that small window to have a voice. Where colored folk was allowed to talk about things that bothered us.

Miguel: Yes. Before it got shut down again.

Christina: So, I mean, of course, like I said, it's a sitcom so they had like a nice, quick, easy, happy ending, which—

Miguel: Of course.

Christina: In real life does not really happen like that. But it's also kind of sad that this came out in 1992 and here we are in 2022. And again, these discussions are still happening.

Miguel: Yeah. They were happening 30 years before.

Christina: Yep.

Miguel: And here we are 30 years after and it's still happening. The thing that shocked me about the show, and I mentioned it to you when I was watching one of the episodes last week. They were trying to figure out how they were going to save some money.

Christina: Uh huh.

Miguel: The guy who cleans their pool shows up and he's trying to get paid. So Blanche is trying to put on her Southern charm. "Oh, you can do it. Give us a little break. Come get the money next month," all this stuff.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: And Sophia just walks by for no reason and unprovoked and goes, "Lying slut."

Christina: Woo! Wow.

Miguel: She's trying to help you out here.

Christina: Exactly.

Miguel: And this is what you're doing? So she continues talking to her and Sophia walks away. 30 seconds later, she comes back again. "Tramp." These are the jokes that you guys are getting off at 1992?

Christina: That's crazy.

Miguel: Yeah. It was a bit aggressive.

Christina: 1992.

Miguel: Unprovoked.

Christina: It was the '90s!

Miguel: It was and I'm like, damn, she didn't even do anything.

Christina: Wow.

Miguel: She's just talking to the guy. But I thought that was funny.

Christina: Yeah. I thought it would be awkward. I'm like, how would Don Cheadle play into running a hotel with these like, old white ladies?

Miguel: He did everything. He was the front desk manager, he was housekeeping, he was the bellman.

Christina: Yeah, the one episode I watched, I'm like, oh, that wasn't so bad. Oh, I just wanted to go back to Colors for a second. So I've never watched Colors, but I want to, because it's just a reference that just pops up all the time.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But actually I think it was in the video I sent you about just the locations, then and now.

Miguel: I haven't finished it.

Christina: Yeah. So in the video, they were just mentioning all these like familiar faces in the movies that we didn't really know who they were then.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But we do now, but they pointed out that one young Gerardo was in it.

Miguel: Yes, he is.

Christina: Of "Rico Suave"[2] fame.

Miguel: Him and Mario Lopez too.

Christina: Yes.

Miguel: Mario Lopez is in it—

Christina: And some other familiar faces

Miguel: Yeah. Leon, Glenn Plummer, Damon Wayans.

Christina: And of course, Don Cheadle.

Miguel: Don Cheadle. Sean Penn.

Christina: So one of the things I find a little harder to do in terms of research for when we're covering an actor is their work isn't always as readily available as music. So for the most part, you can hear people's albums or see their music videos on YouTube or whatnot. But with movies and TV shows, especially TV shows, it's hard to find somewhere to stream it or we have to buy it or it's just not available. I was thinking about that because when I was looking through his IMDb, there were so many things I wanted to either watch for the first time or rewatch, but sometimes we're stuck with whatever's available.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: So we ended up rewatching Rosewood and it wasn't a bad movie. It's actually, I think it's a good movie, but it's a movie that makes you mad.

Miguel: It does.

Christina: Right. Now I'm like, oh, why did I choose for—like, I'm the one who's like, let's just go ahead and rent it. I haven't watched it in a while. Now I'm pissed off. Because it's based on a true event.[3]

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: Uh...when was it? 19...1930...

Miguel: 1923.

Christina: '23.

Miguel: In Florida.

Christina: So there are some fictionalized characters in it, like, the main character. What's his name again?

Miguel: Ving Rhames.

Christina: Ving Rhames, his character is mostly fictional. But it's just a story about, basically like a white woman is cheating on her husband and then her side piece decides to beat her up. And to cover it up, she claims a random Black man broke into her house and beat her up.

Miguel: Yeah. Even though there are two other people in the house.

Christina: Yes.

Miguel: And there's tons of people standing outside of her house.

Christina: And she's having loud sex with her side piece. So it's a small town, everybody knows. But anyways, that basically sets off this fiery rage and all the white folks in town basically burned down Rosewood and everybody, almost everybody dies. And this isn't really a spoiler.

Miguel: Yeah. again it is something that's—

Christina: Based on true story.

Miguel: Based on a true story.

Christina: Right. So it is a good movie and he had a strong performance. And I do think that it's important to, to make these kinds of movies to kind of like, keep these stories alive. Because people like to pretend this shit was so long ago or, and/or never happened.

Miguel: Right. Even though in the credits, it said that there were a lot of people at the time of filming the movie still alive, who survived it.

Christina: Yes.

Miguel: But it was so long ago.

Christina: So the movie came out in '97. I say all this to say, I kind of wish we had watched something else instead with our, you know, limited options. It was kind of like, you know, you'll search something. It's like, well, this is available. Let's watch that. And then when I was looking up other stuff, I'm like, I probably would have rather watched Colors. Since that's a movie that I've heard about for so long.

Miguel: But at the same time, you get a different type of violence—

Christina: You do.

Miguel: In Colors you're getting like, police brutality at that point.

Christina: True. But there was another movie ended up finding, somebody had uploaded it on YouTube. It was a cop drama. So I'm sure there's going to be like violence and whatnot in it, but I don't think I'll have any personal anguish watching a cop drama. But basically like he's an undercover cop. It's very Training Day-esque.

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: I'm trying to find the movie name now. I forgot what it was. Oh, Brooklyn's Finest.

Miguel: Oh, I've seen that.

Christina: Yeah With Richard Gere, Ethan Hawke and Wesley Snipes.

Miguel: I've seen it.

Christina: Is it any good?

Miguel: I liked it.

Christina: Yeah, it just from the, what I saw in the trailer, I mean, I think it was from the directors of Training Day as well.

Miguel: It wasn't the greatest movie, but it was good. I liked it.

Christina: Yeah. So that might've been a less angering watch. I saw that the full upload afterwards and I was like, aw, oh, well, I'll watch this some other time.

Miguel: Well, you know, the only issue that I had with Rosewood is the fact that, and this is not a spoiler because the movie's 25 years old at this point. So at the end, when they think that Don Cheadle is dead, they're all escaping on this train, trying to get out of town. And one of the kids looks out of the window and he says, "Hey, it's Booker T!" Now Booker T was Ving Rhames' horse, being ridden by the uncle that they thought was dead. So he didn't say, Hey, there's Uncle Sylvester. He's said, "Hey, it's Booker T! Who is that riding your horse, Mann?" Like, come on now.

Christina: Mann is Ving Rhames' character's name.

Miguel: Yes. His name is Mann. You going to yell out the horse's name first and not your uncle who's thought dead? That's just me. I had that issue the first time I saw the movie.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: Because when I saw it, it was in theaters.

Christina: Right.

Miguel: And other people are clapping when he's coming up and I'm cackling uncontrollably.

Christina: But see, the way the other people reacted, I think that's what they were going for. Cause they wanted to be like, "Who's this person?"

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But you're thinking about it as like, duh, how do you not recognize your uncle before you recognize this, almost a stranger's horse? Like you've known this man for like a few days

Miguel: The horse has been there for four days, but your uncle's been there your entire life. "Look! It's Booker T!"

Christina: Yeah. I think it was just for dramatic effect. You're not supposed to think about it though.

Miguel: I get it, but that's exactly where my head went.

Christina: 'Cause even, that's how I, how I felt by that point in the movie. I'm like, thank God, give us a win. He's alive!

Miguel: "It's Booker T!"

Christina: So yeah. Good movie. Not necessarily something I would recommend watching just because it's a lot.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: And the people who probably need to watch it will never watch it.

Miguel: Exactly.

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Christina: Yeah. So we're still in the nineties. Like all of this stuff is before 2000. There's a bunch of other stuff too. I rewatched Out of Sight, but he doesn't really have very big role in that. I mean, it was, it was okay. It's a, what do you call it? Popcorn movie.

Miguel: Yeah. Well I've seen it, but I didn't take the time to watch it again. Like, I didn't really watch anything outside of the stuff that I watched with you. And I checked out a couple of episodes of Black Monday just to get it back into my head, since it's been so long since I watched it. But for the most part, I'm just going off memory here.

Christina: Yeah. Well, I, we rewatched Traffic and I really liked that movie. I thought that was entertaining. It feels weird to talk about a drug movie as entertaining. I, I liked it.

Miguel: The thing I noticed about all these movies that we watched, like his earlier stuff. Even though they were good movies. I say they were good for the time. Like even Traffic, the way it was shot and the way it was color graded and all of that was very corny.

Christina: Yeah. You had mentioned when we were watching it. Like every time they were in Mexico, everything was brown and dirty looking.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: And then when they were in San Diego, it's all blue—

Miguel: And everything is nice and colorful. And when they're with Michael Douglas, his character, everything's a shade of blue. So that was very cheesy to me. It was good for the time, but looking at it from a 2022 lens.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: Oh, come on. This is corny.

Christina: Just like, speaking of corny, I rewatched the Ocean's series.

Miguel: Yeah, well, those were corny at the time too.

Christina: Well...

Miguel: And that was kind of the point—

Christina: Yeah I guess.

Miguel: Is they were corny and cheesy.

Christina: I think it feels ex—

Miguel: Yet, they were supposed to be fun.

Christina: Right? I think it feels extra corny now because that trope has been done so many times.

Miguel: Yeah, since then.

Christina: Yeah. And he has this terrible British accent. I mean, good for him to be part of a franchise that was so popular, but I probably didn't really need to revisit that.

Miguel: I didn't watch any of those, but my favorite scene of his, of all three of those Ocean's movies is when he goes into Al Pacino's office. And he's pretending to be American at this point. And he's got on like this American, Evil Knievel type outfit, and he's supposed to be performing for the opening of the casino or whatever.

Christina: Right.

Miguel: And he just storms in, puts his feet up on Pacino's desk and says, "Pay. Me. My cash!"[4] And I love that.

Christina: And of course that's the scene I didn't see, because by the time I got to the third movie, I was like, I don't need to watch anymore this.

Miguel: That's by far the best part of the movie.

Christina: Well I missed it.

Miguel: And you missed it.

Christina: I missed it.

Miguel: "Pay. Me. My. Money. In cash."

Christina: Well, what I did like was I rewatched his small scene[5] in Rush Hour 2, as the original Kung Fu Kenny.

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: And him and Jackie Chan basically just cutting it up over Chris Tucker, when they realized that the two of them had their own connection. And they talking in Chinese and Chris was like, "I know you talking about me," and they just giggling and talking shit about him.

Miguel: And he has no idea.

Christina: There was a YouTube comment that I forgot to fact check, but since two people said it, I guess it must be true.

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: But it said that he agreed to do the movie only if he got to fight Jackie Chan[6].

Miguel: That's funny.

Christina: Because I think that's his only scene, right?

Miguel: Yeah, and they have their quick little fight. Then they find out they're kindred spirits.

Christina: So since I watched that clip of him being the original Kung Fu Kenny, of course I had to watch the clip of him in the current Kung Fu Kenny, Kendrick Lamar's "DNA" video[7]. So he's like, interrogating Kendrick and Kendrick's got his little Kung Fu Kenny outfit on. And I guess he gets shocked by, was it called the lie detector?

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: And then they ended up rapping to each other and stuff. I guess he's, if he's going to be Kung Fu Kenny, he's going to have to ask Don Cheadle to be in the video—

Miguel: Of course

Christina: With him, right?

Miguel: Well, I watched an interview[8] from a couple years ago and someone asked him about how he ended up being in the video. And he said just in between takes, he asked Kendrick if the name Kung Fu Kenny came from the Rush Hour character. And he said, yes. So it was done on purpose.

Christina: Confirmed.

Miguel: Yes. From Don Cheadle. All right, with that said, what is your favorite performance or performances and why?

Christina: I actually didn't think ahead.

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: Because I was like, let me try to just go with my instinct. So I think my first instinct is to say Black Monday, because I think he's really good at playing like, an asshole, but a likeable asshole.

Miguel: I get it.

Christina: And plus the styling on Black Monday, because it's set in the 80s, is just so ridiculous.

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: That it's just fun to watch. And that it's just like the wild '80s—

Miguel: Right. Lots of cocaine and sex—

Christina: Kind of portrayal and stuff.

Miguel: Going on.

Christina: And blue eyeshadow and such. So I think, initially I want to say that because overall it's entertaining. But just kind of revisiting a couple of these clips in old movies and stuff, I do like his character in Boogie Nights because, so he's an adult film star.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But there's this very like, earnest quality about him at the same time, because he's like really into stereos and stuff. I don't remember his exact character because I watched the movie so long ago, but just in these clips. And so he wants to open up his own stereo shop. And there's a scene where he's working for somebody else and he's trying to sell a stereo to somebody. And it seems to be everyone's favorite scene, according to the comments[9].

Miguel: I don't remember anything about that movie.

Christina: Well, he's trying to sell a stereo to someone he's really getting into the whole salesman thing. And then he's like, let me turn some music on for you to hear. And then he's playing this like, honky-tonk country. And the customer is just like, ugh. And he's like, you gotta move your hips to it. Anyways. There's just something very earnest about his character. I don't know if they wanted to do that on purpose to be like, hey, not all adult film stars are like these seedy characters, whatever.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: Some of them it's just a job.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: And yeah. So it's kind of interesting to see him play a character that is kind of, um...what's the word? A contradictory character?

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: If that makes any sense. It's hard for me to say, cause I remember Black Monday more.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But I'm going to say somewhere between those two, because you get to see like, a wide range just even between those two characters.

Miguel: Yeah. I'm going to go with Mo on Black Monday as well. And for the same reasons that you said. He plays, I wouldn't say shifty characters, but slick talkers.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: People who kind of operate in the gray areas and use a lot of loopholes. He does that really well. And Mo is probably the best character for that. He's not a complete asshole to people. He just finds, like I said, the loopholes and wiggles—he works in the gray areas. So that's probably my favorite character.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: Of anything that he's done.

Christina: Now that you've put it that way, it doesn't matter if he's like a cop or an actor or Ice Tray or... Like he's is always kind of a gray area guy.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: In Rosewood he was—

Miguel: He was a music teacher. He was pretty straight laced in that one.

Christina: Yep.

Miguel: And there's a lot of stuff where he isn't operating on the edges.

Christina: Yes. Mission to Mars.

Miguel: There's one. But even that would being on Mars by himself, he... a little bit crazy for a bit.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: So I like those type of characters that he does. Even though he does dramatic characters as well. When he's kind of the loose cannon is what I like.

Christina: Yeah. I like him when he's a little bit funny.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: Like his character in House of Lies where he's kind of an asshole, but you kind of like him though.

Miguel: He cares about the people that he cares about.

Christina: Yes.

Miguel: But he does what he needs to do to get the job done.

Christina: Exactly.

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Miguel: All right. So our last topic, I'm going to ask for you to give a suggestion or maybe a couple suggestions, spoiler free. Of what people should watch from his filmography.

Christina: Okay. So, hmm... I'm going to say a few different types of suggestions. So if you don't know Don Cheadle very well, you haven't watched much of his stuff, I would say, maybe check out Black Monday since we both liked that one.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But the Miles Ahead was interesting where he plays Miles Davis because, you know, he's playing a real person.

Miguel: Yes.

Christina: Even though he was—I still saw a lot of Don Cheadle in there.

Miguel: It is.

Christina: But then at the same time, you know, I'm not really familiar with Miles Davis.

Miguel: Yeah, me neither. I just know—

Christina: So I can't really, I just know his, what his hair looks like and that he's a musician.

Miguel: He had a dry Jheri curl in the 80s and he wore big sunglasses and that's what I knew about Miles Davis coming into the movie.

Christina: Yep. And because he's lead in these movies or TV shows, so you get to see more of him. Now if you are pretty familiar with him and just looking for something new to watch, or maybe you're getting to know him some more, I actually like him on SNL. 'Cause even though he plays characters that are kind of funny, he doesn't really do comedy. And so it was interesting to see him do these little sketches on it, SNL, when he's like playing a roach, in a Roach X commercial. I wouldn't say it's his best performances per se, but it's kind of nice to see him do something that's totally comedic.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: So that would be my other suggestion.

Miguel: Okay. I actually had the same thing as you, Miles Ahead, where he's playing Miles Davis. For the most part, it is a dramatic role, but because it is about someone that is actually a living per—or was a living person, it's supposed to be somewhat true.

Christina: Right.

Miguel: Although—

Christina: I did some research into this.

Miguel: The story of what the movie is, didn't actually happen.

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: But the flashbacks where you see him meeting his wife and recording albums and how he worked. That was a little more truthful. But the actual story of this movie...

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: Is a little bit outlandish. It's basically a heist with Ewan McGregor and Don Cheadle as Miles Davis.

Christina: I think that's also what makes it interesting, cause it's, you think it's a biopic, but it's not really.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: So you, you don't really see that, that often. But it's not egregious in the sense of like, why would you make this crazy story?

Miguel: Exactly.

Christina: And within like, the first five minutes of the credits, he was credited like 12 times. It's like this man did everything. He played Miles. He was the director. He wrote the screenplay or like, co-wrote, I don't know how many other people were involved, but he was very involved.

Miguel: Yeah.

Christina: But yeah, I saw, just a little article or something about it. And when he was talking about this at the Sundance Film Festival, he said the approach to the film was "not to produce a biopic, but to create a plausible, though, largely fictional vignettes of Davis's life that interpreted his creative process."

Miguel: I was just going to say that. Like, it's not so outlandish that you don't believe it. But it's just crazy enough and you know a little bit about his backstory and it's like, You know what? He might've done this.

Christina: This could have happened.

Miguel: He could have pulled this off, but it isn't actually true.

Christina: Yeah. So—

Miguel: It's very entertaining.

Christina: Yeah. So the general parts of his life is true, like you were saying. Meeting his wife and some of the other stuff, but the actual story itself isn't true.

Miguel: Yeah. The criminal parts of it were—

Christina: Yeah.

Miguel: Made up. Or was it?

Christina: Who knows?

Miguel: And also there's some Funny or Die sketches where he plays Captain Planet. Yeah, they're a little bit weird.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: I didn't watch the Captain Planet cartoon because it was a little after my time, but basically the general idea is there's five people from around the world. They have these power rings. They come together to save the environment, blah, blah, blah. If it's something that they can't handle, they call in Captain Planet. He helps them. They move on to the next episode. On his Captain Planet, he's like, fuck it, I'm turning it everybody into trees.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: And yeah, he just decides that not only am I going to help the environment, but I'm turning everybody into trees.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: And there's like five episodes[10] of them, and it's completely ridiculous. So check those out.

Christina: That sounds strange.

Miguel: It is. They're maybe five minutes long each.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: Easy watch. But just seeing him in that green makeup in a green mullet, it's hilarious.

Christina: I also watched a little interview with him and Kevin Hart. Cause I had only seen that one little clip floating around[11].

Miguel: When he called him old?

Christina: Yeah. 'Cause he said something about being 56, Kevin Hart's like, "Damn!" So they ended up having this little back and forth about being old and stuff. So that was pretty funny too, actually. I figured he wasn't actually mad.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: But at first it seemed like he was. But as they kept joking and talking it's clear he wasn't upset. But that was funny too. So IMDb had a video of just like a montage of all his movies[12] and stuff.

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: And it's so funny that you can't even tell when these movies were made, because he basically looks the same. And the only thing that really changes, which then is still hard to tell, depends on what character he's playing.

Miguel: Okay.

Christina: Is like, his hair and wardrobe will change, but then he doesn't really look that much younger or older.

Miguel: Right.

Christina: So if they didn't actually put the years up, you're looking at this montage and it's like, this movie is from 2007, this one's from 2012. This one's from 2019. You're like, but he looks the same. Like, sometimes he'll look younger in older—in newer movies.

Miguel: Yes. He definitely looks older, than he does now, in The Golden Girl stuff.

Christina: Yeah and so and especially like, if he's playing something like Miles Davis, then he's got makeup on or a wig or whatever. So you cannot tell when these movies were made.

Miguel: That's funny.

Christina: So I thought that was hilarious.

Miguel: All right, so is there anything else you would like to add before we wrap this all up?

Christina: I think that was it. I slipped in that last thing and maybe after we finish recording, I will probably be like, oh, I forgot. But it is what it is.

Miguel: I think we should watch Colors tonight.

Christina: Okay.

Miguel: Just because. Because you haven't seen it and—

Christina: I just know the song. "Colors, colors."

Miguel: All right. So we're going to wrap everything up here. Thank you again for listening to They Reminisce Over You. Make sure to follow us on social media @troypodcast on Instagram and Twitter. Also check out That's our website. That's where you can get transcripts, links to the things that we mentioned in this episode. Probably some stuff that we forgot to mention. We'll add those to the website as well. Also check out our playlists on Spotify. You can just search the title of the episode and it should pop up. If not go to our website, and the playlist will be there as well.

Christina: I'm guessing there's no playlist for this, or are you going to do inspired—

Miguel: Yeah, I think I might do "Inspired by."

Christina: Music from his movies and stuff. Okay. You got to put Colors on it.

Miguel: Of course, that'll be like the first one. On that note, we are done. We will be talking to you guys again in two weeks. Bye.

Christina: Bye.